'I love you so I'm going to stick my sperm stick into your baby maker.' I mean, absolutely great fun and all, but personally, the best way my boyfriend shows me love is by surprising me with a romantic night and a genuinely loving kiss, not with his genitals.
Well, I still don't think it's right, but then again it's their choice. I guess. (and now you'll probably ask if it's not their choice otherwise, so let me answer you already: technically it is, but their relationship is still nothing more than friends with benefits. But how much 'good' that would do is questionable.)
So what are your views on masturbation? And sex has been scientifically proven to be GOOD for you. Sex/masturbation feels good, and people all through out history have had sex without being married, even Gaus Julius Caesar had sex without being married to the person. To him, Marriage was just a ceremony.
"It should mean that, yes. If marriage is just a ceremony to you (to me it's a life bond), there's really no point in it." Should, but doesn't. Love has existed without marriage in history, and still exists without it. People can spend their whole lives deeply in love and never get married.
"I take sex as something not good but necessary to have kids on the natural way." Good for you, however I hope you realize it isn't the only biological purpose for sex. There is also emotional intimacy and pleasure.
"Oh yeah, the notorious "It's not how it should be and we refuse to care about it" thing. Not. Gonna. Work." You assume too much. I love how you automatically assume that, and ignore simple things I point out. How "mature" you must be.
"What's emotional about THAT? Unless you are raped and feel the emotions like anger and fear." You have alot to learn young one. When people who love each other have sex, in or out of marriage, they feel a deeper connection, the emotional bonding with their partner on a deeper level. As for pleasure, it's a biological function.
"No, I just assumed you meant 'things aren't how they should be. Stop saying how they should be because the bad way is better." Because you know, people seem to like giving such arguments. " Those sorts of arguments are indeed annoying.
"Well, I assume you've never heard of rapers, sex addicts and friends with benefits if you say that." *Rapists, not rapers. And yes, I know quite enough about them. They may do it casually or by force, but the biological functions do not change. They still experience the emotional closeness, whether they act on it is a different story. They still feel sexual pleasure, that is there regardless.