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Bases are Shit by Haters-Gonna-Hate-Me Bases are Shit by Haters-Gonna-Hate-Me
Seriously, if you use bases, you're not just cheating on art, you're cheating on yourself.

Edit: Why, yes... it's in groups for bases. Whodathunk! :roll:
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:iconlisaneee:
Lisaneee Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2015  New Deviant
I don't like bases. I don't find them to be real art. If my friend wants to do a collab with a base, I'll do it, but thats the only reason. 
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RubyGemshard Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2015  Student Traditional Artist
Lol I'm still gonna use bases anyways!!
I meant I can draw but I do them cuz im bored!!
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StarShineRunner Featured By Owner May 29, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
BASES ARE FUCKING ART
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An0nymousFlow3rs Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2015  Student General Artist
i've hidden the comment only because I don't want any more replies. The matter is over with and I don't even care. jfc just stop
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StarShineRunner Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Base Edits Are Art There Are For Practice, Enjoyment, Time-saver, Help And To Allow People To ACTUALLY POST ART WHEN THEY DON'T FEE COMFORTABLE WITH THEIR ART. Or Do You WAN'T People To Feel Shitty About There Art So Haters Can Swoop In To Take Their Life. So Its A. Not Care That People DO Bases Or B. Have Haters Swoop In And Take People's Lives Because Of Depression ETC And Have People Rarely Post (Because That What's Make DA Special) AND Stop People From Enjoying DA At ALL.

So Are My Reason's Plausible OR YOUR TOO HEARTLESS TO CARE!
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MrsGunsoul Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
a) No offence but your Way Of Typing Like This makes your text really hard to read and is really annoying in general for the very same reason, and
b) if you can't draw to save your life and are so utterly depressed that you could kill yourself JUST because if someone comments "lol you need more lineart practice" on your drawing, you have some other issues than just drawing. You'll never feel comfortable with your art if you don't draw yourself and actually train to get better at it -- which btw is inevitable if you actually draw, you're bound to get better.

TL;DR: I think you're just being overly dramatic here. Of course cyber bullying is another thing but that wasn't the subject here.
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An0nymousFlow3rs Featured By Owner Edited Jun 28, 2015  Student General Artist
Wait, I did that wrong.

not good at comment debates.

What I meant is, if someone wants to get good at art, they should practice drawing on thier own, instead of using bases. They should just draw freehand, plus the freehanded drawing is more creative and original, and more respectrable the editing a base.

And no, I'm not heartless, and no, I don't want people to commit suicide, you obviously overanalysed what I said.
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HeartStorm4ever Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
What about using the bases simply as a reference? Is that cheating too?! NO! Even at drawing freehandly, you need some reference right? Or you can draw something that you never saw in your life? If you do, congrats, you're the first!
Bases can work like that! Especially when involving difficult poses or even a different perspective. Even if you don't use bases, you'll search for some reference of it, right? Like some other drawing or a photo?
So, in that way, bases do help! Don't generalize things! 
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An0nymousFlow3rs Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2015  Student General Artist
Also, referencing is different, too.

all of these replies are about loopholes, im talking about just plastering some hair and clothes onto a 'naked' anime base all the time as the only thing you draw
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HeartStorm4ever Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I think that people should be more specific if that's what they hate!
Saying in a general manner that "bases are shit", includes referencing too. I don't like to see an edit base with just some colours added, nothing changed, etc. as well.
But the way some people say things, led to misunderstandings.
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An0nymousFlow3rs Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2015  Student General Artist
Sorry.
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An0nymousFlow3rs Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2015  Student General Artist
Oh my god stop replying.
I've gotten so many angry replies.
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HeartStorm4ever Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
And why do you think that is?
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An0nymousFlow3rs Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2015  Student General Artist
obviously because im "generalizing"

o was tired when I wrote the comment and was too lazy to finish,

Im talking about the people who only post base edits or don't credit. doing it occasionally or for fun is different.
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MrsGunsoul Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
What about collabs then? One person draws the lines, second colors it all in. Should only the first person be credited or called an artist and the other just a cheat? : )
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An0nymousFlow3rs Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2015  Student General Artist
That's different
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MrsGunsoul Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If people called bases "open collabs" would it make them any different? 'Cause that's what they essentially are
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StarShineRunner Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
I Didn't "Over Analysed" What You Said I Is Actually All True
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An0nymousFlow3rs Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2015  Student General Artist
Not it isn't.

I do not want people to commit suicide.
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StarShineRunner Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
I Know That But Everything Else...Yea
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K-O-T-E Featured By Owner May 11, 2015  Student General Artist
Good, I love cheating. (unless it's in relationships but...)
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nialicious2 Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2015
I don't get it. Bases help people. I get that it's your opinion but still alot of people use bases.
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frontierNexus Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Ah, the virtual tracing paper/coloring book.
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HeartStorm4ever Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Really? Then tell me, have you ever used an image for reference to draw something? If you did, according to you, that's CHEATING too! I agree that some people don't do much effort while using bases, but for most people, bases are used to practice drawing skills, especially on difficult poses, and or for reference of how to draw such pose! Exactly like Stock photos. That's my case, I use bases and stock images as reference for difficult poses on traditional art!

So, stop being such whining bitch, and use your brain a little!
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Goodranite Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2015  Student General Artist
Are you stupid? He's talking about people that just take a blank version of something(Pony bases, sonic bases, etc.), filling it in with the bucket tool with random colors, and calling it art. He's not talking about people that learn from tracing and eventually doing it on their own.
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HeartStorm4ever Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
First, no, I'm not stupid; Second, if you read carefully, he wasn't talking in just that case! He is saying that no one can learn from bases! Read the other comments carefully first, before insulting people!
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dokipuff112102 Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I use a mouse, and I use bases, and I don't find it to be art theft or cheating, but if you do, then that's your opinion.
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Pandadrake Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Art isn't a competition, lol. The only cheating is stealing art and putting your own name or a price tag on it.

  There's nothing wrong with using something that a nice artist made to help the newbies get their ideas out. That's like saying using references is cheating.
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Dusk-deerfluff Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
I started out with bases and slowly stopped using them..
It's just when some people are younger they tend to use bases.
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squishMuffin23 Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Here's how it goes. A lot of people start out as base artists on DeviantART. I was one way back in middle school, but I'm in college now. It comes to a certain point where people realize that there is absolutely NOTHING CREATIVE OR ORIGINAL ABOUT USING BASES. When you're young it's understandable. You're still learning. But eventually you gotta grow up.
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Jay-The-Demon Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2015
Well its your opion I personaly use bases cause I suck at drawing. But if you don't like bases I wont juge.
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Killjoy515 Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2014  Student General Artist
i think that bases help many people, including myself, to help hone their skills. no need to generalise so negatively.
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OffensiveTitles Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ugh especially people who use them all the time
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DaisyKittyArtist Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I can draw, but I use bases for fun...
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Rexyky19 Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
jack ass has it ever occured to you that new artists use bases to hone their skills
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XMonochrome-NimbusX Featured By Owner Edited Jan 31, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Bases don't help you draw. Yes, they are fun to use every once in a while, but they don't hel you improve. PRACTICE, people. It's called DeviantART, not DeviantFive-second-edits-of-a-Rozen-Maiden-base.
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HeartStorm4ever Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Actually, they help some people to learn how to draw bodies, so shut up!
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XMonochrome-NimbusX Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Actually, no. People should learn how to draw their own bodies. Not scribble on a traced base.
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HeartStorm4ever Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Why do think that everyone scribbles over the base? Some people just use it as a reference pic for the pose! So yes, it helps you learn!
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XMonochrome-NimbusX Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
IMO it doesn't.
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HeartStorm4ever Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
You're a block head, aren't you?
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XMonochrome-NimbusX Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No. I don't block people over the littlest things.
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AlexHeart6742 Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I accept your opinion and I respect it, however it takes a lot of effort to make base drawings good. I myself don't use bases as they were intended. I am not the best at drawing people, so I use bases as references, drawing the bases so I can add what I want to them, alter them. Just because someone can't draw on their own, doesn't mean they can't draw. Those are my few words of wisdom.
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Batman0430 Featured By Owner Sep 12, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Welp at least they help people who can't draw....
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XMonochrome-NimbusX Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
They don't help you draw.
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Luna-Flower Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2014  Student General Artist
Well then. I cheat a lot. 
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TheGatekeeper13 Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
How are bases bad? some people who use bases are just starting out....it helps with anatomy practice along with drawing hair and clothes...it also helps with poses....bases helped me....i cant do digital art worth shit....i use bases to help me with my digital art....so if bases are cheating then i guess im a cheater and im just cheating on myself.....even though since i been using bases my art skills have improved....
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YGEbony Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Ily
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TalonRider Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I use bases because I am inexperienced with digital art. bases are what i'm using to practice my digital art so one day it will be as good as my traditional art
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